Erin Schnabel (IBM Developer Advocate) and John Duimovich (IBM Distinguished Engineer) talk about the latest announcements/releases around the IBM stack and containers, Spring, and Open J9.

4 comments on"Spring, containers, Open J9, and IBM middleware"

  1. erin.schnabel December 13, 2017

    I was wrong, I was wrong! Mea culpa.

    The latest on the OpenLiberty embedded Spring container is here: https://openliberty.io/news/2017/11/29/liberty-spring-boot.html

  2. David Johnson December 16, 2017

    This is interesting, but doesn’t this mean IBM is just handing over the programming model to Spring, and making Liberty little more than a Tomcat substitute? The more you make this work well, the more true it becomes, right?

    Maybe you plan to make Liberty more necessary to Spring – in which case, please explain how.

    • erin.schnabel January 03, 2018

      I see this kind of positioning often. Application frameworks are not like The Highlander, there can be more than one. Like spaces vs. tabs, or maven vs. gradle (vs. sbt vs. … ), allowing IBM technology with Spring does not “hand anything over” to anyone. It does make IBM technology easier to use for people that like Spring, which is goodness.

      As a runtime, Liberty has never been a one trick pony. In the case where someone is using Spring, then yes, Liberty would be functioning as a Tomcat replacement (as Undertow or Jetty similarly do). There are plenty of reasons people have for doing this, as we’ve been asked for it often enough. As for what we plan, you’ll have to wait and see. 😉

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